Animorphs by KA Applegate with Fiona Fenn (Redux)
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Animorphs by KA Applegate with Fiona Fenn (Redux)

Hello Libration Nation! This week we are discussing the classic series Animorphs by K.A. Applegate. Animorphs is a collection of 54 middle-grade books in which five young adults are gifted the power to morph into animals. It was a bit of a cult phenomenon when it was originally published in the late '90s and has recently seen a resurgence online.

My guest is Fiona Fenn. Fiona is an author of fantasy novels that put complicated “heroes” front and center. A fan of villains, redemption arcs, and intense explorations of healing in all its forms, her debut novel, The Crack at the Heart of Everything, is a love letter to every villain who wanted to do better but never got the chance.

I so enjoyed this conversation with Fiona, talking about the Animorphs series and her love for it, as well as her experience writing and publishing her first novel and everything that goes into this process.

Our drink this week is a Flying Saucer, as the Animorphs series begins with the kids meeting an alien who has flown to Earth.

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The Flatshare by Beth O’Leary with Ashley Jones
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The Flatshare by Beth O’Leary with Ashley Jones

The Flatshare by Beth O’Leary is a charming romantic comedy about two strangers, Tiffy and Leon, who share a London flat but have never met, communicating only through notes. As they navigate their unconventional living arrangement, they gradually develop a deep connection that leads to unexpected romance.

My guest this week is the hilarious Ashley Jones, who dreams of owning a stationery store and recapping reality TV for a living (dream big), all while aiming to finally shoot a T-shirt gun, an ambition she’s pursued for over a decade. Ashley is one of my favorite people I follow on social media, and I hope you follow her there too! You can find Ashley on Instagram @AshleyJonesy, Threads @AshleyJonesy, on TikTok @ohashleyjonesy and NOW on her just launched substack Yap Time: The Newsletter you read before a nap.

I had such a great time chatting with Ashley, we share so many of the same passions (Bravo shows, Taylor Swift, Pop Culture in general)  that we frequently got off topic and  had to cut a good portion of the show, which I will be calling “The Lost Episode”, which will not be released and will become part of the lore of the show until fans clamor for me to release it 10 years from now, a la “All Too Well” 10 minute version, which is a Taylor reference and I promise that’s the last one, at least for the podcast intro!

Together we delve into the plot of The Flatshare , focusing on the characters' humanity and the book's feel-good nature. Ashley reflects on how the book changed her perspective on reading for enjoyment. We also talked about the value of empathy, dealing with insecurities, and the joy of following passions, ending the conversation with a nod to Ashley’s love for Sonic's Coke Zero and styrofoam cups.

In This Episode

Kelce Bowl (Super Bowl LVII)

Not Gonna Lie (Kylie Kelce’s Podcast - my #1 rival!)

Orpheus by Sara Bareilles

Styrofoam cups outlawed in Virginia

Sonic Drive In

Beth O’Leary’s Website

Books by Beth O’Leary

Brett Goldstein

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The Finlay Donovan Series by Elle Cosimano with Mair Downing
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The Finlay Donovan Series by Elle Cosimano with Mair Downing

The Finlay Donovan series by Elle Cosimano follows a witty, overworked single mom and novelist who accidentally becomes entangled in real-life crime while trying to meet her writing deadlines. Blending humor, suspense, and heart, the series delivers a fast-paced mix of murder, motherhood, and unexpected friendship.

A little bit about this week's (returning) guest, Mair Downing.

Mair transitioned into real estate from a Fortune 200 company because she wanted a career where she could make a real difference in people’s lives. Whether working with buyers, sellers, or investors—helping clients right-size or find that perfect river getaway—she believes in the energy that comes from realizing goals are within reach. And with Mair’s guidance, they are.

FREE TIME

When Mair isn’t showing homes or preparing listings, she’s cheering on her teen daughters in their various activities—soccer, volleyball, and basketball—or snuggling with her Havanese, Odie (and, of course, her husband, too!). She loves to travel, enjoy great food, and soak in all that life has to offer. Check up her "What's Up Wednesday series on Instagram: @obsessedwithhomes 

For quiet moments, she finds peace sitting on a dock, watching the water glimmer with a good book. Favorite right now: Black Phone by Joe Hill

Death by Chocolate Cocktail - we recorded this episode on Día De Los Muertos, also as the book titles and story contents often involve a little murder, we knew we needed a “deadly” cocktail!

Servings: 1

Ingredients

  • ¾ oz vodka 

  • ¾ oz Bailey’s Irish Cream 

  • ¾ oz dark crème de cacao 

  • ¼ cup chocolate ice cream

  • ½ cup ice

  • Chocolate shavings, for garnish

Instructions

  1. Combine the vodka, Bailey’s, dark crème de cacao, chocolate ice cream, and ice in a blender.

  2. Blend until smooth.

  3. Pour into a chilled wine glass.

  4. Garnish with chocolate shavings and enjoy!

In this Episode

Barbara Streisand films Funny Girl and What’s Up Doc

Drawing Hands by MC Escher

Black Phone by Joe Hill

Brave New World by Aldous Huxley

Pushcart Prize

O. Henry Award

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The Sound of a Wild Snail Eating by Elisabeth Tova Bailey with Ally Kirkpatrick
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The Sound of a Wild Snail Eating by Elisabeth Tova Bailey with Ally Kirkpatrick

I’m so excited to share the audio from my very first live recording, held on October 28 at M.M.LaFleur Georgetown. I had the pleasure of interviewing Ally Kirkpatrick, owner of Old Town Books, about The Sound of a Wild Snail Eating a story that deeply influenced her decision to open her bookstore.

A huge thank you to M.M.LaFleur and their wonderful Georgetown staff for being so kind, supportive, and making this event possible, and to Ally for being such a generous guest and collaborator.

Since we recorded in an open space, I made a few audio adjustments to smooth out background noise. While it sounds crisp and clear overall, you might notice a few spots that move a bit quickly as I balanced the levels.

Book

The Sound of a Wild Snail Eating by Elisabeth Tova Bailey is a quiet, meditative memoir that finds wonder in the smallest details of life. As the bedridden author observes a snail living beside her, she discovers unexpected lessons about resilience, curiosity, and the beauty of slowing down.

Guest

Ally Kirkpatrick, an Alexandria native, founded Old Town Books in 2018 to create space for her love of reading, writing, and community. She also loves her family, shop dog Scout, and gardening. Ally’s current picks include happy-ending thrillers, journalist-written nonfiction, reimagined history, and beautiful gardening books. Recently her debut essay Gnawing was featured in Roxane Gays’s The Audacity, learn more about her writing at allykirkpatrick.com.

Drink 

For our drink this week we had two options, the first was “The MM Spritz”, a white wine spritzer named in honor of our lovely host, MM LaFleur Georgetown. The second was a NA option, Herb & Orchid dealconized wine alternative, which was so tasty, and the connection to nature paired perfectly with the book.

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Carrie by Stephen King with Nathan Buchholz
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Carrie by Stephen King with Nathan Buchholz

Carrie by Stephen King tells the story of a shy, bullied teenager who endures relentless cruelty at school and terrifying abuse at home from her fanatically religious mother. When Carrie discovers her telekinetic powers, years of repression and pain erupt in a devastating act of vengeance on prom night.

Guest

Nathan Lawrie-Buchholz is a special education teacher who loves books that make him afraid to turn off the lights. Nathan has frightened his friends and family with scary stories written in the margins of school notebooks since he was young. Profane Beasts is his debut novel. Nathan’s experience as a teacher inspires him to write about professionals who make a living separating their emotional needs from the people they serve. Nathan writes about the anxiety of walking that line between being professionally empathetic and dangerously involved that all social workers must navigate. Nathan lives in Henrico, Virginia with his wife Haley, their rescue pittie mix Ziti, and their internet famous cat Marston. He can be found searching independent bookstores for old paperbacks or investigating exciting places to eat in the Richmond area. You can find him on Instagram Goodreads or on his website

Our drink this week is a Bloody Mary, of course as a homage to the moment Carrie had enough. I use Zing Zang to make my Bloody Mary’s, to some this is a controversial choice, but I’m sorry, I know what I like!

Bloody Mary Recipe

  • 3 parts Zing Zang® Bloody Mary Mix

  • 1 part your favorite vodka

Directions

  1. Pour over ice and stir

  2. Add a squeeze of lime

  3. Garnish with celery, olives, hot sauce, bacon, anything you like really!

In this Episode

Blair Witch Project Marketing Campaign

On Writing by Stephen King

All 4 Carrie Movies Ranked

Cuckoo by  Gretchen Felker Martin 

Books by Eric LaRocca

Books by T. Kingfisher

Bunny by Mona Awad

Fountain Bookstore in Richmond, Virginia

Whickerman Film

World War Z by Max Brooks

The Great Dismal Swamp

Cajun Queen Tour New Orleans

Abi’s Books and Brews

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Surrender by Bono with Heidi K. Brown
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Surrender by Bono with Heidi K. Brown

In Surrender Bono, the iconic frontman of U2, shares a deeply personal memoir that explores his life’s journey through music, activism, and spirituality. With candid reflections and heartfelt anecdotes, he invites readers into the experiences that shaped both his artistry and his commitment to making a difference in the world.

Heidi K. Brown is a former lawyer, a law professor, a writer, a novice boxer, a passionate U2 fan, a proud introvert, and a feisty solo traveler. She is the author of three books about well-being and healthy performance for law students, lawyers, and other members of the legal profession: The Introverted Lawyer, Untangling Fear in Lawyering, and The Flourishing Lawyer. Heidi is an internationally recognized public speaker on topics of self-empowerment, authenticity, and self-discovery. Heidi launched her debut travel memoir, The Map I Draw: A Memoir of Travel as a Passport to Self, in June 2025. You can find more at Heidikritinbrown.com and  her substack Heidiography.

Our drink this week is Irish Whiskey, specifically  Writer’s Tears if you can get it! If you are in the United States you can order it through Reserve Bar.

In this Episode

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Joshua_Tree

Is U2 the longest running band on the planet?

Ali Hewson - Chernobyl International

The Creative Act by Rick Rubin

The Creative Habit by Twyla Tharp

Steven Pressfield Books

Heidi’s Keynote at University of Richmond Law School Graduation

Joshua Tree Bar Manhattan (sadly now closed!)

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Red White and Royal Blue by Casey McQuiston with Katharine Herndon
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Red White and Royal Blue by Casey McQuiston with Katharine Herndon

Today, we're exploring the delightful and charming world of Red, White & Royal Blue by Casey McQuiston. This romantic comedy takes us on a whirlwind journey through love, politics, and the complexities of identity as we follow the unexpected romance between Alex Claremont-Diaz, the First Son of the United States, and Prince Henry of Wales.

My guest this week is Katharine Herndon, who lives in Richmond, Virginia, with her husband, two boys, and a hound dog named Lola. She used to teach (English, of course), but the homework got to her, so she decided to take up nonprofit work instead (insert laughter). Currently the Executive Director of James River Writers, she is an enthusiastic advocate for the RVA literary community and can be found at nearly all JRW events. In her free time she kills plants, burns things more than she cooks, knits very sporadically, and is still looking for some form of tolerable exercise. 

Our drink this week was a nod to our friends across the pond: 

The New G&T (Gin and Earl Grey Tea)

  • 2 ounce Earl Grey Tea

  • 2 ounce Gin

  • 1 ounce Maple Syrup

  • 3/4 ounce Lemon Juice

  • Fresh Mint or Dried Rose Petals for garnish, optional

  1. In a rocks glass add ice and set aside. In your cocktail shaker, combine all ingredients, except for the garnish. Fill the shaker with ice and put the cap on. Shake vigorously for about 15 seconds, or until the shaker is extremely cold.

• 2. Strain cocktail into your prepared rocks glass and garnish with mint or rose petals, if using. Serve immediately.

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Catwings by Ursula K. Le Guin with Dr. Julia Skinner
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Catwings by Ursula K. Le Guin with Dr. Julia Skinner

Hello Libration Nation! Our book this week is Catwings a whimsical and heartwarming tale by beloved author Ursula K. Le Guin. The story follows four ordinary kittens born with an extraordinary gift—they have wings. As they set out to find a safe place in the world, the kittens discover both the beauty and challenges of being different. With gentle language and charming illustrations, Catwings is a modern classic that captures the magic of imagination, the courage of leaving home, and the comfort of finding where you belong.

My guest this week is the amazing Dr. Julia Skinner, she is a food writer whose work includes the award-winning book Our Fermented Lives. She is the founder of The Culinary Curiosity School, and also runs Root, a food-focused community and consulting organization offering classes, consulting on creative projects, a weekly newsletter, and more. She's also the founder of Roots and Branches, where she coaches other writers to help them find their voice and share their most important work with the world. 

She is also a nature lover, a teacher, and a traveler who firmly believes in finding, and sharing, the magic of everyday life. She has a PhD in Library & Information Science, and lives between Atlanta, GA and Cork, Ireland. 

Check out her work, as a special treat for Libration Nation: use the code DRINKSPOD to for 30% off anything at both The Culinary Curiosity School and Roots and Branches

You can follow her work in her newsletter, or find her on social:

@bookishjulia (writing)

@rootkitchens (food)

@yourrootsandbranches (coaching)

@culinary.curiosity.school (culinary courses)

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Tress of the Emerald Sea by Brandon Sanderson with Gigi Howard
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Tress of the Emerald Sea by Brandon Sanderson with Gigi Howard

Welcome back Libration Nation! Today, I’m excited to share one of my recent favorites: Tress of the Emerald Sea by Brandon Sanderson. This delightful tale is a blend of humor, adventure, and sweetness, following a young woman on a perilous quest to save the man she loves. As we embrace the cozy vibes of autumn, I thought it was the perfect time to dive into this enchanting fantasy.

Joining me today is my husband, Bill, making his fourth appearance on Drinks in the Library. As always, we have a great time riffing and cracking each other up!

Tress loves a salty tea, so I wanted to go with a salty drink and went with a Salted Caramel Coffee Martini, for a non-alcoholic option a Salted Caramel Latte would be perfect!

Salted Caramel Coffee Martini

  • 1 oz Bailey's Salted Caramel Cream

  • 1.5 oz. Vanilla Vodka

  • 1-2 oz. Coffee or Espresso

  • Ice

  • Whipped Cream, Salt, or caramel syrup (optional)

  1. Pour Bailey's, vodka, and coffee into a shaker over ice. Shake and pour into chilled martini glass

  2. • 2. Garnish with cream, salt, and chocolate syrup and enjoy!

  3. NA Option - A cold Brew Salted Caramel Latte would be perfect!

In this Episode

Mistborn Episode

Brandon Sanderson - The Economics of Books and Entertainment

The Princess Bride Film

The Princess Bride  by William Goldman

Reese Witherspoon Woman of the Year Speech

Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy Gin & Tonics

Tress of the Emerald Sea Premium Hardcover

The Substance Film

Brandon Sanderson Kickstarter

Books by T. Kingfisher

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The Language of Flowers by Vanessa Diffenbaugh with Mary Green
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The Language of Flowers by Vanessa Diffenbaugh with Mary Green

The Language of Flowers by Vanessa Diffenbaugh tells the poignant story of Victoria Jones, a young woman who uses the Victorian tradition of flower symbolism to communicate her emotions and navigate her troubled past. As she learns to reconcile her experiences through the meanings of various flowers, she embarks on a journey of healing and self-discovery that intertwines love, loss, and the power of community and relationships.

My guest this week is Mary Green, a florist, wife, dog-mom, plant lover, and also my next door neighbor. Mary loves live music, spending time with friends and family, and books with dark twists and turns.

Hibiscus Paloma Mocktail

  • 1 grapefruit wedge

  • ½ oz fresh lime juice

  • 3 oz NA tequila (I used Ritual Tequila)

  • ¼ cup club soda

  • 1 tsp Hibiscus Simple Syrup (I used Wild Hibiscus, found at Total Wine)

  • 2 oz fresh grapefruit juice

  • kosher salt for garnish

Directions

  1. Pour kosher salt on a small plate. Rub the rim of a highball glass with a grapefruit and dip the rim of glass in salt.

  2. In a glass, combine grapefruit juice, lime juice, and hibiscus simple syrup. Stir in tequila, add ice, and top with club soda. Garnish.

In This Episode

The Complete Language of Flowers by S. Theresa Dietz 

.5 Bottle Shop

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The Murderbot Diaries by Martha Wells with Hayley DeRoche
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The Murderbot Diaries by Martha Wells with Hayley DeRoche

Hello Libration Nation! This week, we are diving into the captivating world of "The Murderbot Diaries," a remarkable series by Martha Wells. Follow the journey of an anxious, self-aware rogue security android, known as Murderbot, as it navigates a galaxy filled with humans and complex emotions. 

My guest this week is Hayley DeRoche, also known as SadBeige, They are a public librarian, activist and meme creator, known for being the content creator behind the "Werner Herzog's sad beige clothes for sad beige children" series. Her funny memes and sarcastic reels have garnered a following of 450,000 on Instagram, where she goes by the handle @officialsadbeige. You can also follow their substack Weird, But Okay. Their book A Field Guide for Sad Beige Parents will be coming out Spring 2026.

Hayley has a collection of shirts and sweatshirts that are so cute and funny AND support public libraries - check them out! Also, 20% of the proceeds from sales of this collection go to support the Women’s Prison Book Project, which supports incarcerated Women, Trans, and Non-Binary people in the U.S. - because everyone deserves the right to read books they enjoy.

Sanctuary Moon Cocktail

  • 2 oz. Herbal Gin (St George’s Terroir)

  • 0.5 oz Lemon Juice

  • 0.5 oz Simple Syrup

  • 4 oz Soda Water

  • Lemon for garnish (optional)

  1. Pour gin, lemon juice, and simple syrup into a shaker over ice. Shake and pour into highball glass over ice

  2. Add soda water and mix gently with a spoon. 

  3. Garnish with lemon and enjoy!

In this Episode

The Murderbot Diaries by Martha Wells

Far From the Tree by Andrew Solomon

Five Laws of Library Science by SR Ranganathan

Murderbot TV Show on Apple

Grizzly Man Documentary by Werner Herzog

Weird, But Okay - Hayley’s Substack

Women’s Prison Book Project

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Fantomina by Eliza Haywood with Samantha DeShazo
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Fantomina by Eliza Haywood with Samantha DeShazo

We are going back in time and discussing Amatory Fiction in the 18th century novel Fantomina by Eliza Haywood. This incredible story explores the complexities of identity and desire through the story of a young woman who adopts multiple personas to navigate the intricacies of romantic entanglements in 18th-century society. This provocative tale delves into themes of gender, autonomy, and the hidden depths of passion, highlighting the lengths one will go to in pursuit of love and self-discovery.

Samantha DeShazo was born and raised in Richmond, Virginia. She earned her MA in English at Virginia Commonwealth University in 2022, where she studied literature of the long eighteenth century. She is an educator who currently works with first year college students. When she's not working, she can be found with her nose in a book or pampering her beloved dog, Henry. 

 Our drink this week was courtesy of Samantha, it is a Creme Earl Grey Black Tea fromThe Spice & Tea Exchange of Richmond. It is absolutely delicious, smells like Fruity Pebbles, and would definitely have been all the rage in Fanomina’s time

In this Episode

Fantomina by Eliza Haywood

The Spice & Tea Exchange of Richmond

Toni Morrison

Frankstein by Mary Shelley

The Law of Coverture

Didn’t Read It Podcast Fantomina Episode

Amatory Fiction

Sense and Sensibility by Jane Austen

Pamela by Samuel Richardson

Love in Excess by Eliza Haywood

Betsy Thoughtless by Eliza Haywood

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Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll with ELizabeth Wiley
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Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll with ELizabeth Wiley

We are going down the rabbit hole this week folks! Join us as we dive into the whimsical world of Lewis Carroll's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, a timeless tale that explores the boundaries of imagination and reality. We’ll unravel the quirky characters, enchanting landscapes, and profound themes that have captivated readers for generations.

My guest this week is Elizabeth Wiley, an award-winning audiobook narrator with a decade of experience in genres like Historical Fiction, Literary Fiction, and Biography. Originally from Minnesota and now based in Williamsburg, Virginia, she records in her home studio. Elizabeth enjoys discussions on the intersection of arts and sciences with her NASA engineer partner. Her interests include sailing, skiing, yoga, and nature spirituality, along with a fondness for Birkenstocks and Hygge.

The Queen of Hearts Special Cocktail 

Shake with ice and strain into a martini glass. Garnish with chocolate covered cherries and enjoy!

In this Episode

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll

Too Old for This by Samantha Downing (Liz’s latest narration!)

Red, Wine and Blue Virginia

LM Elliott’s website

My interview with LM Elliott

Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland narrated by Christopher Plummer

Go Ask Alice (film)

White Rabbit (Go Ask Alice) - song by Jefferson Airplane

The Phantom Tollbooth by Norman Juster

John Tenniel’s Alice in Wonderland illustrations

Richmond SPCA Critter Camp

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The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe with Erin Surber (REdux)
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The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe with Erin Surber (REdux)

It’s Christmas in July! This week we are visiting the world of Narnia, where it is always Winter but never Christmas, at least until the Pevensie children get involved. This week’s guest is Erin Surber, Erin is an avid reader and an enthusiastic library patron. She has four children ages spanning 18 months to 9 years old. Erin has worked in the video production industry for 14 years and now hold the position of Head of Production for a Richmond-based production company. She loves being outside, hiking, running (slowly), and kayaking. Also very into cooking, traveling, and all things dark chocolate!

Our cocktail is staying on the Christmas theme with a Narnia 75, which I found on the FoodNetwork UK’s Christmas recipe page!

Narnia 75 Cocktail

  • 25ml gin

  • 1 tsp white sugar

  • 10ml lime juice

  • 100ml Champagne 

In this Episode

Friendship of CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien

Worthdays - Richmond area non-profit to support those impacted by the foster care system

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The Undead Fox of Deadwood Forest by Aubrey Hartman with Angie Zhao
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The Undead Fox of Deadwood Forest by Aubrey Hartman with Angie Zhao

Hello Libration Nation! This week we are discussing The Undead Fox of Deadwood Forest  by Aubrey Hartman. This newly released middle-grade book features Clare, an undead fox who ushers wandering animal souls to the afterlife realms of peace, pleasure, progress, and pain in the perpetual autumn setting of Deadwood Forest. Clare lives a solitary life, meticulously tending to his mushroom garden and enjoying his tree sap tea, until a badger named Gingersnipes arrives and disrupts his routine.

My guest this week is Angie Zhao. Born and raised in Richmond, Angie was a VCU English major and has spent the past four years working as an Events and Marketing Manager at a children's bookstore in Richmond. When she's not planning author events and school visits, she loves visible mending, making jewelry for her friends, trail running, and, of course, getting lost in a good story. A lover of books for both children and adults, Angie is drawn to clever, form-bending tales and writing that finds magic in the mundane.

Clare’s favorite drink is his tree sap tea; we created this using black tea, maple syrup, and peaches since we recorded in the summer. Feel free to add bourbon if you like, and enjoy it hot or cold year-round as you imagine yourself cozying up in Deadwood Forest!

Maple Peach Tea Sipper

  • 2 oz. Bourbon (optional)

  • 4 oz. Fresh-Brewed Black Tea

  • 0.75 oz Maple Syrup

  • 1/8th of Fresh Peach (softened works best)

  • Fresh Mint (optional)

  1. Mudldle fresh peach, add bourbon, maple syrup, and ice. Shake. 

  2. Strain into glass with ice and top with fresh-brewed tea. 

  3. Garnish with with mint and peach slices, enjoy!

In this Episode

Vanishing World by Sayaka Murata

Marcin Minor Illustrator

Marisa Calin Audiobook Narrator

The Lion of Lark Hayes Manor by Aubrey Hartman

The Book of Joy by Dalai Lama and Archbishop Desmond Tutu

TJ Clune Books

Katherine Applegate Books

Reading in the Middle Podcast

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Here For it by R. Eric Thomas with Izzie Call
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Here For it by R. Eric Thomas with Izzie Call

If you have listened to the podcast for awhile, you have probably heard me reference the book Here For it: Or, How To Save Your Soul in America by R. Eric Thomas. It is a favorite of mine and had a big impact on me  when I read it the first time in June of 2020, so I was SO excited when my friend and returning guest Izzie Call read it, loved it as well, and wanted to come on and talk about it with me. In the episode I referenced the review I wrote about it at the time, but then I never read the review so here it is: Eric Thomas grew up thinking he was a normal kid until others made him feel that he wasn’t. Black, gay, and Christian, these essays reflect upon his experience of never fitting in, being discriminated against, and his hopeful journey to find his place in a country that he loves. Thomas’ conversational writing style draws the reader in, and his ability to add humor to heartbreaking moments truly make these stories come to life. In a time when we can all use to learn more about other’s experiences, this book was enlightening and truthful, with jokes that landed like Kerri Strug in the ‘96 Olympics.

My guest this week is the always delightful Izzie Call.  Izzie works as a museum educator for the VMFA coordinating projects related to the permanent collections and special exhibition displays including digital components, labels, and web

resources. Izzie is a lifelong, passionate educator and feels most at home speaking about art with those who have an interest in learning.

Also, thank you to Eric Thomas for sharing his favorite drink with me when in a moment of bravado (delusion?) I reached out to him on IG. It is a Cosmopolitan and he said he is bringing it back as a recession indicator!

Cosmo Recipe 

1 oz cranberry juice

0.5 oz fresh-squeezed lime juice 

1 oz triple sec (I use Cointreau)

1.5-2 oz vodka 

Shake hard with ice, pour into martini glass, garnish with orange or lime, and enjoy!

In this Episode

Books by R. Eric Thomas

Website - R.Eric Thomas

Eric’s Newsletter - Check It Out!

Cosmos TV Show

Ali Hazelwood Hunger Games Drama

Frida Kahlo VMFA Exhibit (on view through 9/28/25)

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